In this conversation Nat and Mac start with the big question ‘What is coaching?’

They explore going deep in the muddiness, and the sacredness of our inner worlds and privilege of being a part of someone’s thoughts.

They ponder about how traditional coaching is shifting in response to a shifting business and world landscape, and how our personal experiences of going deeper within ourselves, and continually making object what we’re subject to, allows us to partner with our clients to do the same.

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